November 5, 2024

Part One: Kiah Collier, reporter from the Texas Tribune, joins us to talk about how a border agency is shifting money around to begin building The Wall in a wildlife refuge.

Part Two: Sean McFate: author, novelist, expert in foreign policy (and so much more!) joins us to talk about his new book about fictional mercenary Tom Locke, “Deep Black, ” and how fiction helps us digest facts.