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Part One: Mattie Quinn is a reporter for Governing.com. She joins us to talk about her story, “How a Tiny Office in Ohio is Transforming Health Care.” It’s the story of how Ohio Governor John Kasich has successfully instituted health care reform in his state.
Part Two: Will Wilkinson is a contributing opinion writer to the NY Times, and the vice president for research at the Niskanen Center. He joins Arnie to talk about his recent NYT piece, “Can Democrats Drain Trump’s Gilded Swamp?” The American corruption problem is bigger than Trump.